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Q: You say the motor is rated 36V 400A = 19.3Hp, that's not even 20HP, not counting the least of typical 75% efficiency which would bring actual Hp down well below 15Hp. And also my concern is this. How do you support 72V on a 36V design limit without arcing that would melt down entire commutator assy? And If it can take 72V why not use even higher voltage say 120V ? Waht I'm saying is this . If armature internal impedance current limit is 400A at 36V it would surely follow that at 72V current through commutator would easily more double being 800A. This will then create 72V X 800Amp = 57.6Kw or 77.2Hp which would run-away situation even with full shunt surrent and burn up all rotor windings before you'd have time to say "America the land of the Brave".
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A: Your math is pretty good but it doesnt match real-world experience. Electric motors and gas engines are rated completely different. A 1 horsepower electric is equal to a 3-4 HP gas engine in performance.The 30 HP rating is peak and is based on 96 vdc with cooling.If you removed cooling from a gas engine it would be destroyed before you could say "god save the queen".(please excuse my unorthodox sense of humor).When you double the voltage, the amerages does not double also, it actually decreaces, the motor only takes what it needs . That is why this motor will only pull 60-90 amps with out a load.It really only take 5-10 HP to keep the car moving down the road once its up to speed.A reverse bias diode will all but iliminate the comutator arcing. The best way to know if a motor is bieng over loaded is to watch it temperature.I dont know if that helped any ...but I hope so.----------
Q: How do youi recharge it? Just plug it in overnight? How far will it go?
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A: The best charger I know of is made by www.zivanusa.com and they do charge overnight, sometimes faster depending on depth of discharge. It will go 3-5 miles per battery ----------
Q: Can this motor work on bigger cars, like a Lincoln Town Car? Answered on Apr-27-05 ----------
A: I would not recommend this motor for any vehicle over 3500 pounds. It would over-load the motor too much. ----------
Q: How old is the motor? how much use has it had? Exactly what is included in this sale? Thanks, Ross Answered on Apr-27-05 ----------
A: I dont know the actual age of this motor. It has not been used at all , these are manufaturer surplus motors that were never used , just sat in a warehouse for years. ----------
Q: I would like to try this motor in a rail buggy that I am building.It would just be used to run to the store or the beach.It looks like it would work,I have been looking for a motor big enough to achieve decent speeds like this one.Do you know what the other parts needed would cost and where to find them, Not the mechanical parts but the motor speed control and some type of throttle pedal setup.I guess you would need 6 or 8 batteries wired in series to achieve highway speeds.I am an electrician so the wiring won't be a problem.I'm interested in trying this, so if you could give me a little more info I would appreciate it. Thanks,Tim Barnett Answered on Apr-27-05 ----------
A: Your rail-buggie Idea is a great one. The best preformance I've ever seen, with 'off-the-shelf' parts , was with a fiberglass VW buggie that got over 100 miles on a charge.The rest of the parts needed for this conversion can be had at www.e-volks.com . ----------
Q: Hi, I was looking for a dc motor for a volkswagon and shocked to see your auction. I thought it was my brainstorm. What type of batery do you suggest? Can we use deep cycle 12 volts in series? That would be 8 bateries, how far do you think you could go with 8, 12 volt bateries? ----------Answered on Apr-27-05
A: A deep-cycle 12 vdc battery pack would work but a 6 volt golf-car battery pack would provide much better performance. Weve been getting 3-5 miles per battery with 6 volt 220amp/hr batteries. The 12 volt batteries are getting a little less than half that.----------
Q: Would you consider selling one of these motors without the VW attachments? if so how much? Answered on Apr-27-05 ----------
A: Yes, we could sell you one for $400 + shipping. ----------
Q: Please provide more information on the motor, manufacturer, model number. Also is this a custom fabricated adaptor plate or something purchased from Electro Automotive? Thanks, ----------Answered on Apr-27-05
A: The motor is rated at 36 volts(96 peak), 400 amps , 3000-8000 rpm , made by Jahco Corp , Model G29-6. The adapter plate and shaft coupler are made by www.e-volks.com . ----------
Q: How many and what type batteries will it take to run a VW bug? Also how would you charge them? and how often? I am real currious about electric cars. Especially now that gas has jumped. I need a start to try some of my ideas for electric cars. Especially how to charge them. Please get back to me on this. Thanks, Emmett ----------Answered on Apr-27-05
A: The batteries I recommend for this are 6 volt 220 amp/hr golf car type. Trojan 105's are very good.You should use 48 to 72 volts(8 to 12 batteries).The chargers we use are made by www.ZivanUSA.com , look at the NG3 series. Electric cars ARE the way to go, I believe.
Q: is this kit only for a WV?? I have a geo-metro and I would like to know if this kit will fit in my car?? thank's ----------Answered on Apr-27-05
A: No, this would work with other cars than a VW. We do have a geo-Metro adapter plate and shaft coupler that fits this motor. We do have more motors as well.----------
Q: How old is the motor? How much use has it had? Exactly what is included in the sale? Thanks, Ross ----------Answered on Apr-27-05
A: The motor was made many years ago but has been sitting in a warehouse and has not been used. This kit includes the 8" motor with cooling fan shroud, adapter plate to VW, coupler for motor to the flywheel, wiring diagrams , and a list of sources for all other parts needed to complete the conversion.----------
Q: what years vw will this work on?where would the other needed componants be found and doe"s it come with instructions on instulation and hook up of the unit and battery set up.What would the shipping be to lubbock texas. Thanks ----------Answered on Apr-27-05
A: It works with VW bugs 1959-79.We do send wiring diagrams with it and will give all the tech support We can. The other parts can be had from a number of suppliers,like KTA services,Cloud electric,etc or through US . Shipping to Texas is about $75, send us your zip code and we will give an exact shipping estimate.
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Q: How does this differ from an advanced 4B-001 motor? Is It -because it's shunt wound-that i only see 2 connections?? Jul-23-05
A: This motor performs very similar to the Advanced DC motor , except it will not over-run to excessive and destructive RPM's with out a load , like the 4B-001 will. This is one of its great advantages which makes it possable to run this motor with just a contactor and no controller. Also electricity will travel both directions through a contactor, which makes for automatic REGEN-braking , which is not possable with most controllers.Nor is regenerating possable with a series motor(unless more controll electronics are added),but with this shunt motor its designed to do just that.
Q: Did it work out pretty well in the midget? and are any of the cars that you tried front wheel drive? or automatic transmission? Jul-23-05
A: The MG midget has the best acceleration and range of any vehicle we have built thus far. Most of the vehicles we have done are front wheel drive. This motor kit will not work with automatic transmissions.
Q: I've heard that aircraft starters are rated at 24 volts. What is the rating of this motor and hw will it be effected by running at higher voltages? How is the acceleration of the VW with a shunt wound motor? I don't care to drag, just don't want a dog either. Jul-22-05
A: The shunt motor we use is rated at 15 kw , and as a starter/generator is was used at 36 VDC and 400 amps. The ability of a motor to do work is critically connected with the heat it generates and how fast it can be removed. We have tested this motor in many vehicles and have found that it averages 120-150 amps draw , and stays at 110-140 dgrees F with out cooling(on very hot days), when used under 48 VDC. At voltages of 60-96 we add a cooling fan and the motor runs continuous at 150 amps(9.0-14.4KW). The acceleration is as good or better than the original VW engine at 48 vdc , and at 60,72,&96 it out performs the gasoline engine.
Q: Hi, what is the weight of the unit. Motor and parts. Glenn Jul-22-05
A: The motor, adapter plate & coupler weighs approx 80 lbs.
Q: HI ...DO YOU HAVE OTHER 8"DC MOTORS FOR SALE?..IF NOT DID YOU BUY THIS ONE NEW ? THANK YOU ARNIE Jul-20-05
A: Yes , We have many more , but they are rarely offered at this price. You can email me after the auction , if you dont win and I will give you the price for another, or maybe a second chance offer.
Q: I have a vw trike that I am converting. It has a swing axle but am not sure of the year. Will this kit work? Will I get a greater range (40+miles) with a larger battery array (perhaps on a pull behind trailer? I am thinking of Optima yellowtops, is that a good choice? Would a 45 watt solar panel help in recharging during the day? Thanks for you time. Jul-20-05
A: Yes it should work on your vehicle , as long as it has the common VW rear transmission. More batteries definitely mean more range. The optimas are great if your drag racing but they dont give good susstained range. You would need more like 500 watts of solar to make a significant impact in charging. The motor consumes bout 200 watt/hrs per mile.
Q: When you say that you are getting 3-5 miles miles per battery between charges, how deep are you discharging the batteries? Will you have more of these kits available after this auction? Thanks! Jul-20-05
A: The batteries are bieng discharged about 80-90%. They could still go a few more miles but the speed is slower and we dont want to reduce the battery life by driving more than 5 miles per battery. The actual range can vary greatly by inclines, headwind ,cargo/passenger weight , aero-dynamics of the vehicle etc., but the most significant factor is driving habits. The range can be greatly increaced(40%+) by driving it properly, very different from a gasoline vehicle.Having a good amp meter and watching it carefully is the best way to learn to drive an EV efficiently.
Q: is the conversion used? and if so how long was it in the car. Thanks Bill Jul-20-05
A: This motor kit is new , not used. It has been sitting on a shelf for years. It was only tested in a VW for about 10 miles and then shelved.
Q: Can you tell me the manufacturer and model number of the motor? Jul-20-05
A: The manufacturer is a company called Jahco, and the model is a G-29 aircraft starter/motor/generator.
Q: Hello, I am interested in your motor. i am new to electric vehicles. i have been using biodiesel for a couple years now, but i feel that for driving around town, electric would be wiser (especially if i can charge it from the sun). i had a couple questions for you: what year of vw will work? would an older van or thing work? i really want to charge the car via solar. could you tell me a little about what kind of panels i would need and how many? thanks for your time. jason Jul-17-05
A: Driving an Electric vehicle is certainly a wise choice , I believe , and charging it with solar is even better! If you add a big power inverter(lots of battery power in the car)it could run your house for weeks if you ever needed it to, not to mention having 110vac everywhere you go.This kit will work on VW's 1967-79, and I'm quite sure it will work on vans and 'thing's. The motor kit uses approx.200-300 watt/hrs per mile so this will tell you how much solar you need for how many miles per day you want.Its also dependant on how many sunshine hours you get a day where you live, its 6-7 hrs/day where I live.
Q: Would this same setup work for the Chevy Corvair? Since the setup between the VW Beetle and the Corvair are very similar, I'm just curious if you know something like this would work. Also, what is the average distance someone could drive on a electric conversion vehicle? Thanks! Jul-15-05
A: I dont know if it will work for a Corvair , But I suspect it would. You might have to change the bolt hole pattern on the adapter plate, but thats just a matter of drilling some new holes.You may also have to change the set-off distance to the transmission, and this can be done by adding spacers. Ive made this particular kit work on a Geo-metro, Ford-Festiva,MG-midget, and a Datsun pickup. The range/distance is determined by how many batteries you use, for instance at 36 vdc(6 batteries-35 mph) we've been getting about 30+ miles per charge. This can be extended with careful driving.
Q: hi i just need you to clear up some of my questions i have a 1974 v.w. beetle if i win your auction,everything i get ...will that get me up and running or do i need to buy something else to use my car.??? how fast will my beetle go with your electric motor in it??? how far can i drive at 50 miles a hour thanks for your time oh why are you sell it does it work ok?? scott Jul-15-05
A: You will need a few more parts to get it up and running. For instance you will need batteries and a charger,heavy gauge wire(#2/0),amp meter & volt meter,and some smaller gauge wire, etc. That is why I recommend Bob Brants book. The Beetle should go over 75 Mph at 96 vdc with good cooling.I would recommend starting at 36 volts(6 batteries and 35 mph top speed)and get comfortable with that, and then add more batteries for higher speed and range. We've got 3-5 miles per battery per charge, so your distance depends on how many batteries you use.
Q: Dear wildernessenergy, just enquiring if you could give me a shipping quote to send this kit to Melbourne, Australia ? Also what cost is a replacement brush set for this motor ? Can it handle more than 96 volts with a contoller ? best regards gerrad123 Jul-15-05
A: To ship to Melbourne Australia postal code 3045(airport)via UPS is $506.92 .I just got that price off their website at www.ups.com ,you might be able to get a better price. The weight is 95 lbs and the box dimensions are 20L x 15W x 15H.Replacements brushes are about $20 a set and the motor probably shouldnt go over 96 volts since cooling becomes a very serious issue at higher voltages.
Q: Hi, You state that this motor will only propel your volkswagen about 5 or 6 miles per charge, this sounds like a misprint, I would have believed that it will propel you VolksWagen about 50 to 60 miles per charge? Please let me know. Thanks, Fazal. Jul-23-05
A: If you read my response again , you will see that I said 3-5 miles PER BATTERY per charge. If you have 10 batteries that gives a range of 50 miles or more.Hope that helps.
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Q: WOW, I cannot believe you are doing this...I have been researching this exact project now with a friend for a few weeks in anticipation of building an electric bug! Can you send me a list of what is needed to convert a bug (doing it right) and a list of items you may be willing to supply as a kit. I would be willing to purchase a kit from you as long as I understood the details of the conversion to keep me from making a big mistake. Thanks, Mark - Arizona Plese send to my e-mail at: cormier15025@yahoo.com Answered on May-13-05----------
A: Mark, LOVE your enthusiasum,Please check out our website at www.e-volks.com. You can email me direct if you have more questions at : solarev@cut.net ----------
Q: Hello, I'm still interested in this engine, I'm searching for a VW to put it in, Bug or dune buggy. Not having much luck. My e-mail is bikenkayak@msn.com lets keep in touch, if i find a car and you still have the engine I will purchase it through E-bay If you could suggest any EV car websites please do, John Answered on May-13-05 ----------
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A: John, Good luck on your quest for a 'donor' VW. I have two of them(1969 yellow and 1970 white)which are available for cheap, but getting them to you would be difficult since I'm (I.E.the cars)in Utah. ----------
Q: what condition is the motor in? Looks used but I am curious about how many miles are on this setup. Answered on May-13-05 ----------
A: These are brand-new motors that have been shelfed for years.We also have replacement parts and brushes for this motor.----------
Q: how many batters are in the bug and is it 48v or 72v 96v ....... Answered on May-12-05 ----------
A: This motor can be run at any voltage from 36 to 72 and up to 96 with good cooling. The number of batteries you use depends on if your using 12 volt or 6 volt types, and what voltage your going to run it at, and the desired range per charge.----------
Q: do you sell these conversions or is this the only one you have? and is this conversion you have shippable or are you selling whole car? Answered on May-12-05 ----------
A: We do sell conversion kits and have some experience in building them. This motor kit can be shipped anywhere UPS goes, global. We do have a few completed cars but we dont ship them and are only available in Utah , unless you want to come and pick it up. I'm told that Fedex will ship whole cars but its about $1000+. ----------
Q: I am still interested in this product, But i have much to learn about EV's I was thinking I could bolt this in the "donor" vehicle, and be on my way. looking at a few websites seems this is not the case. Can you give any tips on building my first EV ? Answered on May-12-05 ----------
A: The simplest way to do an EV conversion is with a contactor type control of the motor. Its much less expensive that a PWM speed controller and much simpler to wire. It only has an on-off control but with a clutch ,it drives a little like a sports car. With this motor kit plus the contactor, fuse ,momentary switch, wire and batteries+charger, you could have the VW up and running in a few hours. This simple set up shouldnt cost more than a few hundred dollars plus the cost of this kit. I can send both the complex and simple wiring diagrams with it. Then as your experience increaces , you can add the more complex p
Q: Hi, what is whit the controller?? for sale??? shipping to Germany?? thanks michaeltrx850 Answered on May-11-05 ----------
A: The best controllers I've found are made by Alltrax(www.alltraxinc.com). If UPS ships to germany , then we can get it to you. You can check the cost at www.ups.com, the ship 'from' address is USA zip code 84646 ----------
Q: Hello, I'm interested in the motor for an electric car. The flywheel/cluth plate and pressure plate you say will be needed, would these be standard VW parts? Where would the other parts needed be purchased.? This is my first step into an electric car. But my intent was to find a VW bug or dune buggy to make into an electric car. John Answered on May-11-05 ----------
A: Yes the flywheel,clutch and pressure plate are standard parts. I would recommend a lightweight flywheel like one you can get from JC whitney part # AHE481257R.The other parts can be found at any of the EV conversion companies like , KTA services, Cloud electric , e-volks ,ETC. ----------
Q: How well would this adapt to a 65 corvair? Could you forward your phone for questions? Thanks DC Answered on May-11-05 ----------
A: I dont know how it would work with a 65 Corvair , but I'm sure it could be made to work. Send me an email direct(solarev@cut.net) and I will give you my phone number. ----------
Q: where do you put the batteries??? Answered on May-11-05 ----------
A: The best place is in the front trunk and in the rear engine compartment. I have also seen the batteries behind and under the back seat. ----------
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Q: How does this differ from an advanced 4B-001 motor? Is It -because it's shunt wound-that i only see 2 connections?? Jul-23-05
A: This motor performs very similar to the Advanced DC motor , except it will not over-run to excessive and destructive RPM's with out a load , like the 4B-001 will. This is one of its great advantages which makes it possable to run this motor with just a contactor and no controller. Also electricity will travel both directions through a contactor, which makes for automatic REGEN-braking , which is not possable with most controllers.Nor is regenerating possable with a series motor(unless more controll electronics are added),but with this shunt motor its designed to do just that.
Q: Did it work out pretty well in the midget? and are any of the cars that you tried front wheel drive? or automatic transmission? Jul-23-05
A: The MG midget has the best acceleration and range of any vehicle we have built thus far. Most of the vehicles we have done are front wheel drive. This motor kit will not work with automatic transmissions.
Q: I've heard that aircraft starters are rated at 24 volts. What is the rating of this motor and hw will it be effected by running at higher voltages? How is the acceleration of the VW with a shunt wound motor? I don't care to drag, just don't want a dog either. Jul-22-05
A: The shunt motor we use is rated at 15 kw , and as a starter/generator is was used at 36 VDC and 400 amps. The ability of a motor to do work is critically connected with the heat it generates and how fast it can be removed. We have tested this motor in many vehicles and have found that it averages 120-150 amps draw , and stays at 110-140 dgrees F with out cooling(on very hot days), when used under 48 VDC. At voltages of 60-96 we add a cooling fan and the motor runs continuous at 150 amps(9.0-14.4KW). The acceleration is as good or better than the original VW engine at 48 vdc , and at 60,72,&96 it out performs the gasoline engine.
Q: Hi, what is the weight of the unit. Motor and parts. Glenn Jul-22-05
A: The motor, adapter plate & coupler weighs approx 80 lbs.
Q: HI ...DO YOU HAVE OTHER 8"DC MOTORS FOR SALE?..IF NOT DID YOU BUY THIS ONE NEW ? THANK YOU ARNIE Jul-20-05
A: Yes , We have many more , but they are rarely offered at this price. You can email me after the auction , if you dont win and I will give you the price for another, or maybe a second chance offer.
Q: I have a vw trike that I am converting. It has a swing axle but am not sure of the year. Will this kit work? Will I get a greater range (40+miles) with a larger battery array (perhaps on a pull behind trailer? I am thinking of Optima yellowtops, is that a good choice? Would a 45 watt solar panel help in recharging during the day? Thanks for you time. Jul-20-05
A: Yes it should work on your vehicle , as long as it has the common VW rear transmission. More batteries definitely mean more range. The optimas are great if your drag racing but they dont give good susstained range. You would need more like 500 watts of solar to make a significant impact in charging. The motor consumes bout 200 watt/hrs per mile.
Q: When you say that you are getting 3-5 miles miles per battery between charges, how deep are you discharging the batteries? Will you have more of these kits available after this auction? Thanks! Jul-20-05
A: The batteries are bieng discharged about 80-90%. They could still go a few more miles but the speed is slower and we dont want to reduce the battery life by driving more than 5 miles per battery. The actual range can vary greatly by inclines, headwind ,cargo/passenger weight , aero-dynamics of the vehicle etc., but the most significant factor is driving habits. The range can be greatly increaced(40%+) by driving it properly, very different from a gasoline vehicle.Having a good amp meter and watching it carefully is the best way to learn to drive an EV efficiently.
Q: is the conversion used? and if so how long was it in the car. Thanks Bill Jul-20-05
A: This motor kit is new , not used. It has been sitting on a shelf for years. It was only tested in a VW for about 10 miles and then shelved.
Q: Can you tell me the manufacturer and model number of the motor? Jul-20-05
A: The manufacturer is a company called Jahco, and the model is a G-29 aircraft starter/motor/generator.
Q: Hello, I am interested in your motor. i am new to electric vehicles. i have been using biodiesel for a couple years now, but i feel that for driving around town, electric would be wiser (especially if i can charge it from the sun). i had a couple questions for you: what year of vw will work? would an older van or thing work? i really want to charge the car via solar. could you tell me a little about what kind of panels i would need and how many? thanks for your time. jason Jul-17-05
A: Driving an Electric vehicle is certainly a wise choice , I believe , and charging it with solar is even better! If you add a big power inverter(lots of battery power in the car)it could run your house for weeks if you ever needed it to, not to mention having 110vac everywhere you go.This kit will work on VW's 1967-79, and I'm quite sure it will work on vans and 'thing's. The motor kit uses approx.200-300 watt/hrs per mile so this will tell you how much solar you need for how many miles per day you want.Its also dependant on how many sunshine hours you get a day where you live, its 6-7 hrs/day where I live.
Q: Would this same setup work for the Chevy Corvair? Since the setup between the VW Beetle and the Corvair are very similar, I'm just curious if you know something like this would work. Also, what is the average distance someone could drive on a electric conversion vehicle? Thanks! Jul-15-05
A: I dont know if it will work for a Corvair , But I suspect it would. You might have to change the bolt hole pattern on the adapter plate, but thats just a matter of drilling some new holes.You may also have to change the set-off distance to the transmission, and this can be done by adding spacers. Ive made this particular kit work on a Geo-metro, Ford-Festiva,MG-midget, and a Datsun pickup. The range/distance is determined by how many batteries you use, for instance at 36 vdc(6 batteries-35 mph) we've been getting about 30+ miles per charge. This can be extended with careful driving.
Q: hi i just need you to clear up some of my questions i have a 1974 v.w. beetle if i win your auction,everything i get ...will that get me up and running or do i need to buy something else to use my car.??? how fast will my beetle go with your electric motor in it??? how far can i drive at 50 miles a hour thanks for your time oh why are you sell it does it work ok?? scott Jul-15-05
A: You will need a few more parts to get it up and running. For instance you will need batteries and a charger,heavy gauge wire(#2/0),amp meter & volt meter,and some smaller gauge wire, etc. That is why I recommend Bob Brants book. The Beetle should go over 75 Mph at 96 vdc with good cooling.I would recommend starting at 36 volts(6 batteries and 35 mph top speed)and get comfortable with that, and then add more batteries for higher speed and range. We've got 3-5 miles per battery per charge, so your distance depends on how many batteries you use.
Q: Dear wildernessenergy, just enquiring if you could give me a shipping quote to send this kit to Melbourne, Australia ? Also what cost is a replacement brush set for this motor ? Can it handle more than 96 volts with a contoller ? best regards gerrad123 Jul-15-05
A: To ship to Melbourne Australia postal code 3045(airport)via UPS is $506.92 .I just got that price off their website at www.ups.com ,you might be able to get a better price. The weight is 95 lbs and the box dimensions are 20L x 15W x 15H.Replacements brushes are about $20 a set and the motor probably shouldnt go over 96 volts since cooling becomes a very serious issue at higher voltages.
Q: Hi, You state that this motor will only propel your volkswagen about 5 or 6 miles per charge, this sounds like a misprint, I would have believed that it will propel you VolksWagen about 50 to 60 miles per charge? Please let me know. Thanks, Fazal. Jul-23-05
A: If you read my response again , you will see that I said 3-5 miles PER BATTERY per charge. If you have 10 batteries that gives a range of 50 miles or more.Hope that helps.
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